This is just disgusting!

[SWCCC]

$64K for my 2018. It sat on the lot for months before I got it.

Nice price!

 

[DavidKFla]

Nice price!

It was in late October and the 19s were coming out.

 

[Bobo]

I got my loaded 23 in December, for 4.5K off sticker. That was pre-strike sticker. The MSRP sticker, is about 5K higher since paying-off the union cry-babies.

HEY!!
Honestly those prices were higher before "paying us off" as you say, and as stated before our wages are a very tiny portion of a vehicles cost! Prices did not and do not need to be raised to cover wages, they are being raised to keep profits up for shareholders. They are cutting back and making us find savings in the plants to cover moist of the union wage increases. We need to save 10% each department year over year or we are reprimanded for not meeting goals and then replaced with someone who will. They don't replace retirees or employees that left, fired. You just have to get it done anyways.

Prices were going to be what they are regardless of what the union got! Most people don't know much about it but that's O.K. that is to be expected. Do most know that in 2023 before the strike I only made $4.14 an hour more than I did when I started here in 2013. A decade and only $4.14 hr increase in wages? Now tell me how much prices went up with inflation over that same decade! Especially the last three years and tell me again about being a cry baby.

 

[MMissile]

Pre and post strike pricing is about 5K higher for the same cars and options. I had the window stickers to prove it, when I went shopping. All the dealers said that the best purchases would be from an inventory "pre-strike". Frankly, I don't care. People can buy...or not buy.

Oh, and I live in Detroit, and worked for both Chrysler and Ford. I left Chrysler, because the union was worthless....in 1980.

 

[DavidKFla]

HEY!!
Honestly those prices were higher before "paying us off" as you say, and as stated before our wages are a very tiny portion of a vehicles cost! Prices did not and do not need to be raised to cover wages, they are being raised to keep profits up for shareholders. They are cutting back and making us find savings in the plants to cover moist of the union wage increases. We need to save 10% each department year over year or we are reprimanded for not meeting goals and then replaced with someone who will. They don't replace retirees or employees that left, fired. You just have to get it done anyways.

Prices were going to be what they are regardless of what the union got! Most people don't know much about it but that's O.K. that is to be expected. Do most know that in 2023 before the strike I only made $4.14 an hour more than I did when I started here in 2013. A decade and only $4.14 hr increase in wages? Now tell me how much prices went up with inflation over that same decade! Especially the last three years and tell me again about being a cry baby.

Corporations have 1 duty. Bring the stockholders the highest profits possible.

The car I ordered went up $2K before the strike.

 

[MMissile]

Corporations have 1 duty. Bring the stockholders the highest profits possible.

The car I ordered went up $2K before the strike.

Correct.
They've been going up, since you could buy a car. What hasn't gone up?

 

[DavidKFla]

Correct.
They've been going up, since you could buy a car. What hasn't gone up?

Stellantis vehicles have the highest percentage of price increases across the board.

They're market has always been a little cheaper and a blue collar buyer.

Nothing has changed about their cars except the price.

The brands are not considered "high line". Majority of those buyers won't even look at them.

 

[MMissile]

Base price for a 1984 Caravan....$8400
Base price for a 2020 Caravan....$29000
Nearly 400% higher

Base price for 2008 Charger $22000
Base price for 2023 Charger $34000
Nearly 50% higher

 

[Bobo]

Pre and post strike pricing is about 5K higher for the same cars and options. I had the window stickers to prove it, when I went shopping. All the dealers said that the best purchases would be from an inventory "pre-strike". Frankly, I don't care. People can buy...or not buy.

Oh, and I live in Detroit, and worked for both Chrysler and Ford. I left Chrysler, because the union was worthless....in 1980.

I agree with you for the most part but the auto makers just used the strikes to blame/justify what they were already doing, going to do anyways.

 

[SWCCC]

It was in late October and the 19s were coming out.

I just got my 2018 SRT392 for 32k otd with 15k miles....

 

[SWCCC]

My loaded 2016 had a MSRP of $71k. I got it off the showroom in a little town in central Utah (Spanish Fork) in October of 2017. The ‘18s were coming out and there were still leftover ‘16’s. I got it for $12k off. $59k 😁. View attachment 128109

Steller price!

 

[2ndAmend]

Spring 2020 I was considering ordering a zero option Scat Pack, $35k after power dollars, great deal! Hard time justifying the extra $20k for the HC. Very happy I didn't buy the SP!

 

[2ndAmend]

Net, after all fees, on the 22 RE was 9.7% under sticker. I figured the 23's would be no where near that. Sometimes you get lucky and make the right decision!

And the higher the ADM's, the higher the value of the cars we own!

 

[RAMBLE1]

Net, after all fees, on the 22 RE was 9.7% under sticker. I figured the 23's would be no where near that. Sometimes you get lucky and make the right decision!

And the higher the ADM's, the higher the value of the cars we own!

You was very lucky! I ordered/bought a '22 Challenger RE and paid MSRP. In the area, the RE's were going for 10k to 25k over sticker. I didn't pay for one of their add on gimmicks, saved thousands.

 

[2ndAmend]

You was very lucky! I ordered/bought a '22 Challenger RE and paid MSRP. In the area, the RE's were going for 10k to 25k over sticker. I didn't pay for one of their add on gimmicks, saved thousands.

Koons!

Edit: I ordered early Dec 22.

 

[Bowlerguy92]

Koons!

Edit: I ordered early Dec 22.

Same. We got a great deal. I can't fathom paying almost the same price I paid for a WB redeye for a scatpack. Crazy times. Is anyone actually paying these prices or are these dealers hopes and dreams on display?

 

[Smitty]

I’m guessing these dealers will be sitting on these for awhile unless they come to the table and deal. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Bobo]

I just got my 2018 SRT392 for 32k otd with 15k miles....

The wife really really wants one after driving a SRT392 Durango on the slalom course at Radford in November!

 

[Slowpoke387]

I dunno, red eye widebodys only dropped into the upper 70s at their lowest, regular body cars were in the upper 60s back in 2019.

Yep. 76k for my loaded '20 REWB. Sunroof, carbon/suede too. Ah the good ole days.

 

[2ndAmend]

The wife really really wants one after driving a SRT392 Durango on the slalom course at Radford in November!

Don't you like the 392 Wrangler?