So You Want To Order A 2023?

[DavidKFla]

I think that what he is saying is true when it comes to the number of cars that will be produced. I don't think that what he says is the reason.

 

[MikeD1]

It will be a rerun of 2015 with even fewer cars in play and prices almost doubled.

I agree that while parts shortages may be a part of the problem, there are other forces in play here limiting production #'s.
Maybe I have my tinfoil hat on, but I believe all the manfacturers are drying up the market (under pressure from the lizard overlords) on purpose.

You'll rent an electric car, drive when, where and at the speed they say and be damn glad to have it - plebe !!

 

[drag racer]

I feel like I will be lucky to get my '22 that is on order. Will be very interesting to see if the "supply chain issues" magically disappear for the upcoming golf cart models.

 

[ChargerChallenger]

Stellantis is now the Masters of Deception it’s a no brainer the Board Members ain’t gonna pay Magician Elon Musk the Tesla man much more in Carbon Foot tax credits. Hello everyone Stellantis is the Drag Queen of future EV cars and they are skating the truths sadly. The least amount of Hellcat cars is to their advantage being less penalties and more profits off less production.

 

[1971demon]

Stellantis is now the Masters of Deception it’s a no brainer the Board Members ain’t gonna pay Magician Elon Musk the Tesla man much more in Carbon Foot tax credits. Hello everyone Stellantis is the Drag Queen of future EV cars and they are skating the truths sadly. The least amount of Hellcat cars is to their advantage being less penalties and more profits off less production.

This is not the auto industry I grew up with...the whole industry is making decisions that I believe will build in their own obsolescence....the car is not goin away..but todays manufacturers might not be so lucky

 

[Demoniccat]

Keep pissing down my back and tell me it’s raining. That’s where my brand loyalty ends. At least the Generals Bow Tie devision has a semi long term solution, more so than Stelantis with their Dodge division.

 

[1971demon]

Keep pissing down my back and tell me it’s raining. That’s where my brand loyalty ends. At least the Generals Bow Tie devision has a semi long term solution, more so than Stelantis with their Dodge division.

Agreed...puttin all yer future eggs in this EV endeavor is a huge mistake as I see it...a simple administration change can put the brakes on this initiative..not to mention resistance from the automotive consumer.....time will tell

 

[HOWFAST]

I ordered a Charger Jailbreak back in May/June 2022, was in BD status for a long time. It recently went into BG status. Unfortunately that does not mean anything solid yet. Of course, at $10k markup is already on a Jailbreak arriving in two weeks.

Gus//

 

[2ndAmend]

The EV is the future as long as elections keep going the way they have. Does anyone really expect things to change?!?! About 2/3 of women will vote based on the hype of a single issue: "Women's Health". That means any candidate for freedom, the economy, borders, real science over junk science, funding police, getting the military to focus on readiness, 2nd Amend, etc... needs to overcome a 33% deficit out of the gate to have a chance. I'm glad I'm old, the future looks very bleak. I'm just glad I have mine.

 

[DavidKFla]

The EV is the future as long as elections keep going the way they have. Does anyone really expect things to change?!?! About 2/3 of women will vote based on the hype of a single issue: "Women's Health". That means any candidate for freedom, the economy, borders, real science over junk science, funding police, getting the military to focus on readiness, 2nd Amend, etc... needs to overcome a 33% deficit out of the gate to have a chance. I'm glad I'm old, the future looks very bleak. I'm just glad I have mine.

I disagree. The majority of females are much smarter than that.

 

[2ndAmend]

I disagree. The majority of females are much smarter than that.

I would agree that the majority of women are very smart, and they are smart enough to keep silent to avoid arguments. My wife is a frekin' genius but her sister (an ivy leaguer who never had a real job) is an extremist environmentalist whacko. My wife does not engage her because the sister's emotions rocket. And 90% of their friends are extremists also. I guess there are different ways to define smart.

Example: One of the ladies is buying a Rivan to tow her horse trailer. She gleefully told the other ladies that it has a 300mi range. This is a train wreck in slow motion.

 

[BULL]

I'm a smart guy, I think, by most people's standards, but my voting does come down to one issue...

Conservative vs Leftist...

 

[ChargerChallenger]

I'm a smart guy, I think, by most people's standards, but my voting does come down to one issue...

Real ID and in person voting vs Drop Box Voting...

 

[2ndAmend]

I'm a smart guy, I think, by most people's standards, but my voting does come down to one issue...

Conservative vs Leftist...

Once upon a time, you could vote for one person or the other based on their individual position. Unfortunately these days things are completely polar and you are on one side of the other, even in local elections.

 

[1971demon]

The EV is the future as long as elections keep going the way they have. Does anyone really expect things to change?!?! About 2/3 of women will vote based on the hype of a single issue: "Women's Health". That means any candidate for freedom, the economy, borders, real science over junk science, funding police, getting the military to focus on readiness, 2nd Amend, etc... needs to overcome a 33% deficit out of the gate to have a chance. I'm glad I'm old, the future looks very bleak. I'm just glad I have mine.

I disagree. The majority of females are much smarter than that.

Yup I agree...want proof...I never thought Trump was going to overcome the vagina vote....

 

[DavidKFla]

Yup I agree...want proof...I never thought Trump was going to overcome the vagina vote....

It doesn't matter if you steal the election.

 

[1971demon]

It doesn't matter if you steal the election.

Well show me a politician thatS NOT a thief

 

[2ndAmend]

Well show me a politician thatS NOT a thief

I can name only one politician who's wealth decreased since going to DC.

 

[Boris]

I would agree that the majority of women are very smart, and they are smart enough to keep silent to avoid arguments. My wife is a frekin' genius but her sister (an ivy leaguer who never had a real job) is an extremist environmentalist whacko. My wife does not engage her because the sister's emotions rocket. And 90% of their friends are extremists also. I guess there are different ways to define smart.

Example: One of the ladies is buying a Rivan to tow her horse trailer. She gleefully told the other ladies that it has a 300mi range. This is a train wreck in slow motion.

She gonna learn today.

 

[1971demon]

I can name only one politician who's wealth decreased since going to DC.

Grant?