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Electric Truckstops Will Need As Much Power As A Small Town

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Imagine the amp draw on a semi-truck battery "Super-charge" rate...

Now multiply that times 50-odd trucks...

:unsure:
 


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How can one take said energy and use it for their house:unsure:
 


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Wow is that article full of shit!

They have an apparent fact in there that is really hard to even agree with or dispute. It goes like this and I simply don’t even know where to begin the research necessary ….

If we stop MAKING ANY gasoline powered vehicles in the EARLY 2030’s, it would add only 15% to the WORLD’s energy consumption BY 2040. Seems rather easy and at arms length not a problem, huh? Consider present day the state of California a very large state here in the USA imports 30% of their electrical power or more everyday, present day fact.

Now add more and more EV’s, requiring even more power. Oh and encourage every other state that is currently sending part of their power production to also increase their demand for power.

They also say solar and wind power is cheap. Really? How about the cost increases in the materials necessary for those types of power production the last few years? How about we quit subsidizing their costs with tax dollars? How about we use and are transparent about the replacement costs for both of those technologies over more than ten years?

Just how do they calculate just WTF the worlds energy consumption be in 2040?
 


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The one thing they don't mention is the fact that all batteries die, relatively quickly, like 8-10 years.


 


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Can’t remember who said it or if it’s even true, but every EV car battery, solar panel, and wind turbine will be in a landfill in twenty years.
Greenies say they can they can be recycled but haven’t figured out how yet.
 


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Imagine the amp draw on a semi-truck battery "Super-charge" rate...

Now multiply that times 50-odd trucks...:unsure:
50?!? Guess you haven't tried to find parking at a truck stop late in the evening? Try 250 or more.
And then there are some truly large truck stops.

Although, electric tractor trailers would give a new meaning to truck stop.
 


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Can’t remember who said it or if it’s even true, but every EV car battery, solar panel, and wind turbine will be in a landfill in twenty years.
Greenies say they can they can be recycled but haven’t figured out how yet.
Electric commercial truck stops...just another ill conceived monumentally expensive exercise in futility...sweet fancy moses when will this Bullshit stop:unsure::unsure::unsure:
 


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Can’t remember who said it or if it’s even true, but every EV car battery, solar panel, and wind turbine will be in a landfill in twenty years.
Greenies say they can they can be recycled but haven’t figured out how yet.
Shucks ...Biden will figure it out...I think Joey and PAVA Steeler.are in a basement somewhere workin on it as we speak...:oops::oops::oops:;)
 


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50?!? Guess you haven't tried to find parking at a truck stop late in the evening? Try 250 or more.
And then there are some truly large truck stops.

Although, electric tractor trailers would give a new meaning to truck stop.


Agreed, it was a generalization and best guess at some sort of average...
 


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Can’t remember who said it or if it’s even true, but every EV car battery, solar panel, and wind turbine will be in a landfill in twenty years.
Greenies say they can they can be recycled but haven’t figured out how yet.
Batteries 5-7 years if used heavy. Wind turbines and solar panels least than that. You are being conservative!
 


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Batteries 5-7 years if used heavy. Wind turbines and solar panels least than that. You are being conservative!
Yes, I am conservative. ;) Okay, call it 10 years then.

Wow, so when folks put solar panels on their roofs, they’re only good for 5 years or less?
 


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Although all of the above are certainly issues, there is another that a lot of times is minimized / overlooked.
The analogy I like to use is to think of electricity as being water.
The cables and wires that deliver it to you are like pipes and hoses.
Batteries would be swimming pools.

Now think about a truck stop. Hundreds of swimming pools trying to be refilled at the same time. So lotsa water (electricity) is needed. The hose (cable) coming into the facility is only so big. It will only handle a certain volume (amps). You could increase the amount coming in by increasing the pressure (voltage), but you know what happens when you put more pressure in a hose than what it can handle. Cables are the same way - they'll fail.

So the solution is to install additional 'pipes' or increase the size of those pipes to handle the draw. The thing is, you can't provide any more volume than where the smallest restriction is anywhere along the way. So you could have the largest, bestest cables installed, but if anything 'upstream' is limiting it, it won't help.

Now multiply that by every house in a neighborhood drawing double the amps it is using now because there is a Tesla in the garage charging. Every truck stop like mentioned in the article. Every commercial business with a fleet of electric delivery trucks charging. Now picture the amount of overhead lines you see on utility poles while driving down the street. All the transformers hanging off of them, and the pad mounted transformers sitting in yards in underground fed residential (or commercial) developments.

Every single thing will need to be looked at and likely upgraded to handle all of this.

And that's assuming we have a big enough reservoir (generation) to start with to supply all the water....
 


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Although all of the above are certainly issues, there is another that a lot of times is minimized / overlooked.
The analogy I like to use is to think of electricity as being water.
The cables and wires that deliver it to you are like pipes and hoses.
Batteries would be swimming pools.

Now think about a truck stop. Hundreds of swimming pools trying to be refilled at the same time. So lotsa water (electricity) is needed. The hose (cable) coming into the facility is only so big. It will only handle a certain volume (amps). You could increase the amount coming in by increasing the pressure (voltage), but you know what happens when you put more pressure in a hose than what it can handle. Cables are the same way - they'll fail.

So the solution is to install additional 'pipes' or increase the size of those pipes to handle the draw. The thing is, you can't provide any more volume than where the smallest restriction is anywhere along the way. So you could have the largest, bestest cables installed, but if anything 'upstream' is limiting it, it won't help.

Now multiply that by every house in a neighborhood drawing double the amps it is using now because there is a Tesla in the garage changing. Every truck stop like mentioned in the article. Every commercial business with a fleet of electric delivery trucks changing. Now picture the amount of overhead lines you see on utility poles while driving down the street. All the transformers hanging off of them, and the pad mounted transformers sitting in yards in underground fed residential (or commercial) developments.

Every single thing will need to be looked at and likely upgraded to handle all of this.

And that's assuming we have a big enough reservoir (generation) to start with to supply all the water....
You're a science denier, your science example isn't based on science!!:geek:
EV, Solar, hydro=Green, Green Good:love::love:
ICE, Oil BAD you bastards!! Where's my soup:mad::mad::mad:
OBEY!!!o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
 


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Yes, I am conservative. ;) Okay, call it 10 years then.

Wow, so when folks put solar panels on their roofs, they’re only good for 5 years or less?
I will say that solar pool heat isn't all that effective. We're putting in electric.
 


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Yes, I am conservative. ;) Okay, call it 10 years then.

Wow, so when folks put solar panels on their roofs, they’re only good for 5 years or less?
It varies on initial cost. It is greater than five, and can go 25 actually. The power production degrades, but they still work. Some have warranties to cover when the production drops lower than a specified amount. We don’t want to spread incorrect info. The storage (batteries) are the largest item to not perform as new. Think of the batteries on our phones.
 


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Yes, I am conservative. ;) Okay, call it 10 years then.

Wow, so when folks put solar panels on their roofs, they’re only good for 5 years or less?
mine are still working good after 12 years. panels inverters have 20 year warranty.
 


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